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	<title>Comments on: Gaggia 102533 Espresso-Dose Semi-Automatic Espresso Machine, Warm Silver</title>
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		<title>By: Stealth8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stealth8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my 5th espresso machine i&#039;ve owned. I must say the picture is a bit deceiving on build quality and how flimsy the machine really is.
&lt;br /&gt;I was very dissappointed when i received it from Amazon. Even mre so when I brewed my first cup. Coffee was very weak and with very little crema. I then noticed online that Gaggia offered an optional cremafilter for this machine which is almost impossible to find. However when i did find one the coffee actually tasted completelly different. It suddenly had the right texture,crema and stretto enough to put a grin on my face from the satisfaction. 
&lt;br /&gt;but the as time went on 6 months or so. the crema filter became useless when it clogged up. I got it going several times after cleaning it but it involveed to much effort and time. So at this point i&#039;m back to the original filter that came with the machine. Which means it&#039;s very difficult to get a good cup of coffee the way i like it. and yes i&#039;ve try many different blends, grinds, beans. I&#039;m less than a year into it and i&#039;m ready to throw in the towel and move on to another machine.
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Rating: 2 / 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my 5th espresso machine i&#8217;ve owned. I must say the picture is a bit deceiving on build quality and how flimsy the machine really is.<br />
<br />I was very dissappointed when i received it from Amazon. Even mre so when I brewed my first cup. Coffee was very weak and with very little crema. I then noticed online that Gaggia offered an optional cremafilter for this machine which is almost impossible to find. However when i did find one the coffee actually tasted completelly different. It suddenly had the right texture,crema and stretto enough to put a grin on my face from the satisfaction.<br />
<br />but the as time went on 6 months or so. the crema filter became useless when it clogged up. I got it going several times after cleaning it but it involveed to much effort and time. So at this point i&#8217;m back to the original filter that came with the machine. Which means it&#8217;s very difficult to get a good cup of coffee the way i like it. and yes i&#8217;ve try many different blends, grinds, beans. I&#8217;m less than a year into it and i&#8217;m ready to throw in the towel and move on to another machine.<br />
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Rating: 2 / 5</p>
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		<title>By: C. Kelleher</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Kelleher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaggia has a reputation for building relatively solid though finicky espresso makers. This machine is one of the new generation of Gaggias, which evidently are attempting to retreat from the reputation of solidity. This machine - the Espresso - has three iterations: the Pure (the simple black plastic cheap one), the Color (one color, red, costs more than the Pure evidently because of the color), and the Dose (which can be calibrated to deliver a fixed amount of liquid per button press, which costs even more. The units all have the same mechanicals - stainless steel boiler, roughly 3.5 ounces in size, a brass coated brewing group, and (note well) a non-pressurized 58mm &quot;commercial&quot; portafilter. 
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&lt;br /&gt;Right out of the box, the Espresso feels cheap and flimsy. No metal in sight, and the machine (in my case the Dose) looks like a big ugly hunk of plastic. The steam control knob feels like a child&#039;s toy and is so poorly mounted on its stem that it feels like you could twist it off. The water reservoir is a skimpy 42 ounces, and the alleged warming plate is ugly white plastic and produces markedly little warmth. This by far is the ugliest appliance in my kitchen and is also among the most expensive. Most importantly, the machine weighs only 10 pounds, which makes tightening the portafilter a chore as you have to pin the machine down to keep it from tipping over or just being shoved around the counter. 
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&lt;br /&gt;The mechanicals inside appear to be solid, and the portafilter is sturdy and serviceable. The boiler appears willing enough, though it is really tiny, and the steaming wand is excellent. The dosing function on my Dose model appears mainly useless, as my brewing results worked better with manual operation, and this pointless features adds about $50 to the price of the base model. Eyeball your cup&#039;s fluid level and save $50. No three way valve, but the filter puck is reasonably dry and easily emptied. 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;Now the real problem - if you plan to use your own beans for this, you need a $300 grinder from Gaggia. That&#039;s it, end of story. My $90 Capresso Infinity after much experimentation with tamping and grind proved incapable of making anything other than sludge due to the non-pressurized portafilter. I called the vendor up and their service staff informed me (in a sympathetic and polite manner) that the Infinity simply couldn&#039;t produce a consistent fine grind. Even the popular Baratzas (in the $100-$200 range) can&#039;t produce a &quot;Gaggia grind&quot; without being disassembled and modified by the user. (This is true - check the Baratza website FAQs). Upshot: nothing less than a $300 grinder can produce home ground coffee for this machine. 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;The vendor told me to try pre-ground espresso, and sure enough the commercially ground coffee I tried was much much better, but this means dealing with a short lifespan and keeping the coffee in an airtight container in the freezer. Even after trying that, I found that the pre-ground produced nice crema only when very fresh, like 1-2 days, and generally not after it came out of the freezer. If you don&#039;t mind running off to a local store for a small dose of commercially ground coffee every day, this is your machine. Or you can buy a grinder that costs as much or more than your Gaggia machine does. 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, the disappointment for me here was not necessarily that the machine has such extensive &quot;special needs&quot;. If it was elegant and solidly made, I would still give it a pass, though maybe not for me personally as buying $600 worth of home espresso equipment is beyond my budget. However, even if we factor out the demanding grind requirement, the flimsiness of this machine and its ugly plastic frame simply is unacceptable at the $250-$300 price point. A Saeco Aroma in the same price range is made of metal, has a bigger steel boiler, weighs 30% more, and uses a pressurized portafilter that works nicely with less finely ground coffee. 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;The Gaggia has a better reputation for durability, but the new Gaggia Espressos look like they are made on the same assembly lines as Saeco&#039;s (the companies are commonly held) with the main difference being the portafilters, so I have little reason to assume that this cheap plastic eyesore will prove any more durable than a comparable Saeco. The Aroma is much easier to use, does not need a grinder that costs as much as it does, IMO is more attractive, and is at the same price point. I don&#039;t know why anyone would buy one of these Gaggias. Maybe if you have an expensive grinder, and your old espresso machine died, and you need a cheap replacement? Whatever. I am underwhelmed.
Rating: 2 / 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaggia has a reputation for building relatively solid though finicky espresso makers. This machine is one of the new generation of Gaggias, which evidently are attempting to retreat from the reputation of solidity. This machine &#8211; the Espresso &#8211; has three iterations: the Pure (the simple black plastic cheap one), the Color (one color, red, costs more than the Pure evidently because of the color), and the Dose (which can be calibrated to deliver a fixed amount of liquid per button press, which costs even more. The units all have the same mechanicals &#8211; stainless steel boiler, roughly 3.5 ounces in size, a brass coated brewing group, and (note well) a non-pressurized 58mm &#8220;commercial&#8221; portafilter. </p>
<p>Right out of the box, the Espresso feels cheap and flimsy. No metal in sight, and the machine (in my case the Dose) looks like a big ugly hunk of plastic. The steam control knob feels like a child&#8217;s toy and is so poorly mounted on its stem that it feels like you could twist it off. The water reservoir is a skimpy 42 ounces, and the alleged warming plate is ugly white plastic and produces markedly little warmth. This by far is the ugliest appliance in my kitchen and is also among the most expensive. Most importantly, the machine weighs only 10 pounds, which makes tightening the portafilter a chore as you have to pin the machine down to keep it from tipping over or just being shoved around the counter. </p>
<p>The mechanicals inside appear to be solid, and the portafilter is sturdy and serviceable. The boiler appears willing enough, though it is really tiny, and the steaming wand is excellent. The dosing function on my Dose model appears mainly useless, as my brewing results worked better with manual operation, and this pointless features adds about $50 to the price of the base model. Eyeball your cup&#8217;s fluid level and save $50. No three way valve, but the filter puck is reasonably dry and easily emptied. </p>
<p>Now the real problem &#8211; if you plan to use your own beans for this, you need a $300 grinder from Gaggia. That&#8217;s it, end of story. My $90 Capresso Infinity after much experimentation with tamping and grind proved incapable of making anything other than sludge due to the non-pressurized portafilter. I called the vendor up and their service staff informed me (in a sympathetic and polite manner) that the Infinity simply couldn&#8217;t produce a consistent fine grind. Even the popular Baratzas (in the $100-$200 range) can&#8217;t produce a &#8220;Gaggia grind&#8221; without being disassembled and modified by the user. (This is true &#8211; check the Baratza website FAQs). Upshot: nothing less than a $300 grinder can produce home ground coffee for this machine. </p>
<p>The vendor told me to try pre-ground espresso, and sure enough the commercially ground coffee I tried was much much better, but this means dealing with a short lifespan and keeping the coffee in an airtight container in the freezer. Even after trying that, I found that the pre-ground produced nice crema only when very fresh, like 1-2 days, and generally not after it came out of the freezer. If you don&#8217;t mind running off to a local store for a small dose of commercially ground coffee every day, this is your machine. Or you can buy a grinder that costs as much or more than your Gaggia machine does. </p>
<p>Anyway, the disappointment for me here was not necessarily that the machine has such extensive &#8220;special needs&#8221;. If it was elegant and solidly made, I would still give it a pass, though maybe not for me personally as buying $600 worth of home espresso equipment is beyond my budget. However, even if we factor out the demanding grind requirement, the flimsiness of this machine and its ugly plastic frame simply is unacceptable at the $250-$300 price point. A Saeco Aroma in the same price range is made of metal, has a bigger steel boiler, weighs 30% more, and uses a pressurized portafilter that works nicely with less finely ground coffee. </p>
<p>The Gaggia has a better reputation for durability, but the new Gaggia Espressos look like they are made on the same assembly lines as Saeco&#8217;s (the companies are commonly held) with the main difference being the portafilters, so I have little reason to assume that this cheap plastic eyesore will prove any more durable than a comparable Saeco. The Aroma is much easier to use, does not need a grinder that costs as much as it does, IMO is more attractive, and is at the same price point. I don&#8217;t know why anyone would buy one of these Gaggias. Maybe if you have an expensive grinder, and your old espresso machine died, and you need a cheap replacement? Whatever. I am underwhelmed.<br />
Rating: 2 / 5</p>
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		<title>By: L. Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought this machine from Wholelattelove and am very dissapointed. It failed after 30 days. It started pumping spontaneously, pumped itself dry and then quit pumping. So far its taken Wholelattelove 2 months to repair it and I still dont have it. 
&lt;br /&gt;Its a lightweight flimsy machine, with some odd quirks. Why is the on/off switch in the back where you cant reach it. The water reservoir leaks, and steamer fell off. 
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&lt;br /&gt;I dont recommend the machine or Wholelattelove.com They dont respond to emails, and dont seem to care about customer service.
Rating: 1 / 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought this machine from Wholelattelove and am very dissapointed. It failed after 30 days. It started pumping spontaneously, pumped itself dry and then quit pumping. So far its taken Wholelattelove 2 months to repair it and I still dont have it.<br />
<br />Its a lightweight flimsy machine, with some odd quirks. Why is the on/off switch in the back where you cant reach it. The water reservoir leaks, and steamer fell off. </p>
<p>I dont recommend the machine or Wholelattelove.com They dont respond to emails, and dont seem to care about customer service.<br />
Rating: 1 / 5</p>
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		<title>By: bsantang</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsantang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased this from Amazon in January and found it makes great espresso for a relatively small and light weight machine. I also have a Sirena which is much sturdier and more expensive but I think that the Gaggia makes a better espresso. I initially gave this product a lower rating because the lights failed to operate after a few uses and I was frustrated because it wasn&#039;t clear how to trouble shoot the machine from the Gaggia website. Thanks to Google, I found the customer support number in the US. They called me back promptly and were very helpful.  They were able to resolve the problem with me over the phone with a simple screwdriver in about 5 minutes. They actually knew a lot about the machine and I didn&#039;t need to send it back and wait 5 weeks!  Despite the issue with the lights, I think the machine has been well worth it.
Rating: 5 / 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased this from Amazon in January and found it makes great espresso for a relatively small and light weight machine. I also have a Sirena which is much sturdier and more expensive but I think that the Gaggia makes a better espresso. I initially gave this product a lower rating because the lights failed to operate after a few uses and I was frustrated because it wasn&#8217;t clear how to trouble shoot the machine from the Gaggia website. Thanks to Google, I found the customer support number in the US. They called me back promptly and were very helpful.  They were able to resolve the problem with me over the phone with a simple screwdriver in about 5 minutes. They actually knew a lot about the machine and I didn&#8217;t need to send it back and wait 5 weeks!  Despite the issue with the lights, I think the machine has been well worth it.<br />
Rating: 5 / 5</p>
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